Jul 27 2014
There are a number of facts which we all need to consider when each of us individually decides for ourselves what is and what is not the truth about the downing of MH17 and the death of 298 souls believed as a result of a Russian made BUK ground to air missile system; known to the West as an SA-11. There are numerous versions of the BUK as it has evolved over the years.
- Russian military hardware is essentially the only weaponry hardware that fills the arsenal of both the Separatists and the Ukraine military.
Russia has been the main supplier of military hardware to Ukraine for many years and the training of this Russian made weaponry has of course been by Russian experts. In today’s war; the supply of weaponry to Ukraine is not all that clear. It is also not clear at all whether the Ukraine Separatists actually had access to a latest SA-11 missile battery; but it is a fact that the Ukrainian Army does have such in its arsenal. Furthermore, it is reported the Ukrainian Army has deployed this weaponry into the Eastern Ukrainian battle ground.
- The Separatists may have appeared to some to be nonchalant about the bodies of the downed MH17 passengers; but when they had secured body bags the remains of the dead were efficiently picked up.
The bodies of the lost souls from MH17 were strewn across the crash site and almost immediately the Separatists were instrumental in marking out the position of any bodies and parts found; just as would happen anywhere else there may occur such a tragedy. With the obvious lack of body bags available to such a make shift army; it wasn’t until these bags materialised the movement of the deceased commenced from where they lay. It was clear though; as soon as those bags arrived, this is exactly what occurred. It was also clear those bags once filled with a deceased’s remains, they were being transported and carried as respectfully as possible under the circumstances. The placing of the bodies alongside the road was purely an interim action and at no time was there any disrespect shown in the video footage spread about the world of this happening.
The media on the other hand for whatever reason constantly tried to push the public’s mind into believing to the contrary, when they knew full well it was not the truth. Very rarely does western media give such visual public scrutiny of such a tragedy; but what broadcast on TV of the MH17 body collection – given it is a war zone – was as one would, and could expect.
- The Russians were lambasted for not doing enough in response to securing the crash site.
How interesting it is. The west and the Ukraine puppet government charged the Russians for having a vast army massed upon the border of Eastern Ukraine, ready to invade. The reality was Russia did not have an army massed on the border; in fact the nearest Russian troop deployment was some fifty miles inland of the Ukrainian border – keeping in mind the country inside that border was Russia soil proper. Russia could legitimately have its troops anywhere it wished on its own sovereign lands.
Russia; mindful of the western outcry voiced loudly in biased western compliant media, moved its troops further into Russia proper in appeasement of that cacophony of anti-Russian sentiment. Suddenly that same western voice was knifing the Russians again; this time because it hadn’t crossed the Ukrainian border en mass with its troops and secured the crash site. Damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Listen carefully to Kerry’s words and his noticeable stall at the very first question is more than telling for any analyst.
- Once the bodies of the passengers were being gathered, a train with refrigerated carriages was put into service.
Once again the Ukrainian separatists did exactly as could be expected. Body bags were procured and once they had been, the gathering of the bodies and body parts began. At this point the need to store those bodies and arrest decomposition was met by the procurement of a train with refrigerated carriages.
Again the media tried to make the arrangement of this train as some sort of badly managed event. The truth though is – the Ukrainian Separatists – as soon as the bodies were able to be collected in the now available bags – arranged for the secondment of the train to preserve as best as possible those remains. Both heat and scavenging animals had became a concern.
- United States so called satellite surveillance is purported to have identified personnel wearing Ukrainian Army uniforms around an SA-11 missile battery; and bottles believed to be beer bottles littered the site.
The USA has been vociferously vocal about the downing of MH17 and claimed vehemently to have over whelming evidence of all sorts of things which lead to the undeniable belief only Ukrainian Separatists could have shot down MH17 along with Russian Military help. Yet the same evidence is purported to show an SA-11 missile battery being manned by Ukrainian troops and the ground around this battery as being littered with beer bottles.
The very fact satellite pictures purport to show bottles on the ground let alone they may be beer bottles, lends thought to some very interesting things; such as the depth of quality of pictures which can identify beer bottles on the ground would have to clearly show Ukrainian Government soldiers as being in charge of this SA-11 device.
This is so much so; now the propaganda coming out of the west is claiming Ukrainian deserters were in control of this particular missile battery and hence the reason for the revelation the missile personnel were wearing Ukrainian Army uniforms. There does appear to be a desperate attempt to hide the truth from independent investigators; already the fog of myth-information is thrown to the public by a western compliant media to spin perhaps much less than the truth. Sarin gas rockets fired in Syria were an exact example of this style of contrived politics and mainstream media’s complicity. The fact it is in dispute who fired those Sarin filled rockets meant little to the western spin, and that spin style is perhaps once again being used in Ukraine.
Perhaps the investigators should look at the Ukrainian army’s history, as shooting down a passenger jet full of people is not new to them when firing off ground to air missiles. “In 2001, a land-based missile aimed at destroying a drone; instead struck a Russian passenger jet over the Black Sea, killing all on board.” Note the missile which shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 with 78 people aboard was a Ukrainian missile which missed its drone target and went on for another 150 miles (240klm) to find and destroy another target. A target the Ukrainian Army denied in the first instance of destroying.
- Pictures of an SA-11 system being transported into Eastern Ukraine show a loaded device; that is four missiles. More pictures claiming to be the same SA-11 system being transported out of Eastern Ukraine into Russia shows two missiles missing from its battery.
Were these pictures real? They were so grainy it would be impossible to tell if they were not just a doctored piece of propaganda. Let’s for the sake of balance though accept they are genuine. What needs to be considered is the fact prior to MH17 being brought down, the Ukrainian Separatists had shot down two Ukrainian military transport aircraft and these were purportedly up to some 21,000 ft altitude; two large aircraft very high in the sky. To what weaponry did such military aircraft fall foul of? Just maybe it was to an SA-11 missile and just maybe, it only required one missile for each aircraft downed.
How interesting would this be? Because the second picture paraded across the media of the world was that of an SA-11 battery being purportedly transported back to and across the Russian border and this time, it is missing two of its four missiles. The media portrayed this – alongside the USA’s proof – of the weapon which downed MH17. Perhaps the reality is more to the fact that the SA-11 which the Ukrainian Separatists purportedly had control of had been used to down the two Ukrainian transports, but the Russians knew what was coming in relation to concocted blame and hence attempted to get the SA-11 the Ukrainian Separatists had, back before the western voices could make claims which were false.
- Russia claims to have monitored radar activity from a Ukrainian Army SA-11 device for the day of the downing.
The United States claims to have monitored radar emissions from the SA-11 battery and claim it painted MH-17. The Russians claim to have monitored the Ukrainian Army SA-11 target seeking radar based in eastern Ukraine for most of the same day. Given that the area was a hot battleground where a deadly civil war was ongoing; it is fair to assume both super powers were not just capable of, but were actively monitoring all such emmissions. Both Russia and the United States agree they were monitoring target seeking radar. The US sat pics show an SA-11 being manned with Ukrainian military dressed troops; the one they claim most likely fired the missile/s. Russia claims it monitored an eastern Ukraine stationed Ukrainian Army SA-11’s target seeking radar for most of the day. Both super powers claim the same monitoring; it is just the west now has to concoct a story to change the truth to spin, so as to deflect what the US evidence may really show.
- Media within hours of the downing of MH17 declared the aircraft’s black boxes had been scooped up by Ukrainian Separatists and forwarded to Moscow.
A perfect example of western media and Ukrainian spin in action. Moscow has the black boxes and what will they do with them cried the media; mainstream media making the news not reporting it. The reality is and was at the time; the Donesk mayor had the black boxes and handed them over to the people who should get them; but only did so when the opportunity presented itself for this to be done. It took so long for the independent United Nations backed envoys to get consensus from the UN and then put boots on the ground. This in turn provided the Ukrainian Separatists with the confidence they were dealing with truly independent unbiased people, or so they hope.
- The apparent intransigence of the separatists soldiers to the downing and the wants of the wider world was the result of being in a very violent war and this plane was in the middle of that battle ground.
It is true that it appeared the Ukrainian Separatists were nonplussed by the downing of MH17. To the west it was a tragedy and rightly so; but to the soldiers of an ongoing violent struggle, well that was another thing. Death was and still is a daily occurrence in Eastern Ukraine; there’s a war going on. The plane which fell from the sky was just a casualty of that to those soldiers and the fact everyone was dead meant there were far more pressing matters to deal with. It is not a movie; it is war and while the west may feel the war should cease whilst crash investigators wander unfettered over square miles of terrain; the reality is bullets, mortars and missiles are flying every which way across the eastern Ukraine countryside. A war being the outcome of where the USA by its own admission spent five billion dollars eventually facilitating the overturning of a democratically elected President of a sovereign nation. US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland said: “Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government – all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
- The rifling of the baggage scattered across the crash site does appear to have taken place by those at the scene.
This style of looting seems to have gone on and to anyone on the outside, such actions seem about as horrendous as it can get. Again though there is a need to understand the Ukrainian nation is at war with itself and when clothes, money, telephones and all sundry of things fall as if mana from the sky and all who owned those things are deceased; well then to those suffering deprivation, shell shock and daily death; it is all fair game and able to be put to good use.
- The plane’s wreckage is strewn over 10-12 kilometres of country side; perhaps more.
In fact it is considered that the crash site where debris from MH17 is strewn, is many many square kilometres of forest and farming country, and all a battleground potential. The important issue about the size of the debris field is its correlation to the equation of height, speed and fall rate and angle of debris. It is this equation which will give an almost precise position of missile strike high in the sky. It is also this equation which may well determine which – if there were more than one SA-11 operating that fateful day – fired the downing rocket/s.
- Since the internationalists have made it to the crash site, already plane fuselage is reported as having shrapnel markings and shrapnel fragments imbedded therein.
The western media are already in a mad spin over a large piece of MH17 fuselage being found with what appears to be shrapnel scars and possibly pieces of shrapnel itself embedded. Good start, although this will almost assuredly turn out to be a Russian made SA-11 fragment, it will in no way reveal who fired off such missiles. Both sides in this dirty little western contrived war are armed with Russian weaponry and technology. This in itself does not make Russia the culprit and no amount of western media, lies hype and spin can give credence to western allied bias trying to support a US push against Russia via a NATO front.
As each of us is bombarded by the media using language which clearly can be defined as making statements as opposed to news; there is as yet no definitive evidence to back such language; and as such each of us needs to at least see what the terrain looks like from the other side.
The United Sates and its ally Britain, wanted desperately to arm the Syrian rebels so they could kill off the Alawite supported Assad regime, but were scared they would be arming an insurgency which would turn and fight the US and its allies as did the Taliban.
The US told lies about Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction. Whilst allowing the western world to believe those lies when their own intelligence knew they were lies; attacked the nation Iraq and proceeded to kill by the thousands.
The US and the world bombed Libya to assist a rebellion and walked away leaving a once proud nation in turmoil and internal rebellious strife.
The US used illegal arms sale money to arm insurgents in Nicaragua in South America. Arms we might add which were sold to Iran.
The list is endless of the US atrocities in one form or another; but as the same United States rails – with Secretary of State John Kerry being one of the most bellicose of its citizens– think of the whispering death from drones the US rains down upon the unsuspecting citizens of sovereign nations such as Pakistan, Sudan and any other place the US deems holds a person they suspect as being a terrorist. A rain we might add; which kills so many more innocents then guilty and all considered collateral damage. “TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 – 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 – 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 – 1,362 individuals,” according to the Stanford/NYU study.
Before we of the western world allow a morally corrupt main stream media to manipulate the truth and indoctrinate us all into believing Russia is guilty of a crime because they sold weaponry to soldiers who believe they have a just cause. Let us think of the bombs and rockets and missiles being fired into Gaza as we speak, where in just a few days of violence a kill tally of over 800 dead. How much of that is US made weaponry and US trained users.
- It is a sad day indeed when 298 innocent people are blown out of the sky for no apparent reason.
- Was it because the illegitimate US placed Ukrainian government saw an opportunity to bring hatred upon its Eastern Ukraine foes?
- Was it an opportunity for a covert US operation to turn the western world against a Russian foe named Putin – who seems to thwart every move they make against him and his nation – on the world stage?
- Was it an unintentional bringing down of an aircraft Ukrainian Separatists believed to be another Ukrainian transport, but flying much higher due to its two cousins being shot down just a few days earlier?
- Was it really a bungled CIA operation where they truly believed President Putin would be flying overhead at that time and so they conditioned their Ukrainian friends manning a SA-11 site in Eastern Ukraine to bring the Russian President to earth in a fiery crash. A crash which could be blamed on Putin’s own friends. Not long ago their false intelligence caused the forcing down of the Bolivian President’s jet in Austria because they incorrectly believed it was transporting Edward Snowden to South America and out of their reach.
Eight Hundred already dead in Gaza; 180,000 dead in Syria; a death toll in Ukraine yet to be established; and while you think of the 298 MH17 victims; also think of the thirty, or fifty or one hundred women and children who are blown up almost daily going about their lives in markets in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. Places where the US and all the western powers have fought and are fighting wars; in the name of what?
I write this piece because there is a huge imbalance in the western media’s reporting of what is actually known, to what is reported as fact. Since MH17 hit the earth in pieces, the western media has continued to lose much credibility while trying desperately to ‘make the news’ for its political masters.
Nothing can bring back the 298 lost innocent souls – the loved ones of so many – but when both sides obfuscate so often for their own reasons, it is cognizant of us the globe’s citizens, to attempt to look impartially beyond the fog of officially sanctioned lies and deceit until the truth becomes known. Western law believes in innocence until guilt is proven; let us not let main stream media decide guilt so as to appease its political masters and to hell with the truth.