A loaded dice bring forth the wrath of god if found on a player at the craps table, yet with monotonous regularity we hear, and watch, the loaded panels on ABC Radio and TV.

The peoples network - well maybe once it was, but not for a few decades. This is being confirmed again and again as we heard reporter Quentin Dempster forge ahead with his interview on 6th July 2007 titled "Chop A Tree A Day" that involved the nations farmers uniting to cut down trees as a civil disobedience to unworkable government vegetation laws legislated from Radical Green architects.

Here we list the cast of this ABC Radio sham:

RADICAL GREENS

Jeff Angel, TOTAL ENVIRONMENT CENTRE, renown for threatening farmers such as this statement in the Land 16th March 2006 - "To those who choose not to co-operate and proceed on the assumption that they can do business as usual, I promise ongoing confrontation"

Reece Turner, WILDERNESS SOCIETY, exposed on the Sunday Show 12th August 2006 as a liar concerning his land clearing false statements.

Andrew Cox, NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION ,architect of the greenies murder of our heritage Brumby at Guy Fawkes National Park who were shot and left to die in 2000.

Georgina Woods, NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION, campaigner of Radical Green momentum on false land clearing claims.

POLITICAL PUPPETS

Phil Koperberg, MINISTER FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, doing just what he is told to do by his minders.

Ian Cohen, GREENS MLC, need we sat anymore.

THE FARMERS

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There is nothing like loading the dice to get your point across, and this Dempster Dunking of our persecuted rural farmers shows the depth of the - SO CALLED - people's media network of Australia in action.

Let me put this to you Mr Dempster - the farmers of NSW are ready for their reply to your loaded dice, or are you as gutless as you are green?

May we suggest Mr Dempster, you interview this selection - on behalf of the farmers - Peter Spencer, who represents all the stolen land by government stealth vegetation laws, Phil Maguire, from Mount Bogong who is in total defiance of the Bracks government vegetation and grazing laws, and Bob Richardson, from Push for the Bush organisation.

What's that! ! ! - "do we smell the odour of panic"?

It must be hell with just the thought of these people at one time on ABC radio ?

Now read the transcript of Dempster's clockwork bias ABC radio green agenda.

Editor

Chop a Tree a Day.
ABC Transcript of Broadcast: 06/07/2007
Reporter: Quentin Dempster

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: There's been an outbreak of political hostility around private and leasehold rural land.

A group of militant farmers has been urging landowners throughout Australia to illegally chop down trees each day before State and Federal Governments compensate them for removing their rights to clear native vegetation as they see fit.

They are mimicking tactics by green groups threatening to blockade exports over protest over climate change.

The NSW Government is under pressure to more tightly regulate logging of private native forests.

There's a dispute between conservationists and the Lands Department over the sale of thousands of hectares of crown lease-hold land at below market rates.

First, let's deal with the tree choppers.

Steve Truman, a farmer from Gympie in Queensland runs a rural marketing website called "Agmates".

From 1st July, Mr Truman claims thousands of farmers who subscribe to the website have been chopping down trees on their properties each day in a campaign of civil disobedience against both Federal and State Governments and their vegetation management acts.

The website claims that by today, 6th July, thousands of trees have been destroyed with these emailed pictures including some from north west NSW, claimed to prove it.

Stateline can't verify these claims but in an email exchange, Steve Truman denied both the pictures and his campaign were a publicity stunt.

EXCERPT OF EMAIL FROM STEVE TRUMAN: The peak farming bodies, including the NFF and the NSW Farmers Association have become totally ineffective on this issue. The recent admission by Federal Treasurer Peter Costello on ABC's 7:30 Report that it was Federal coalition policy that stopped land clearing so Australia could meet its Kyoto target has sparked the uprising.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Needless to say environment and conservation groups are outraged at the "Chop Down a Tree" tactic.

JEFF ANGEL, TOTAL ENVIRONMENT CENTRE: The minority of farmers clearing trees as a stunt against tree clearing vegetation should be prosecuted to the full scope of the law.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: NSW climate change and Environment Minister Phil Koperberg has appealed to the public for any information on illegal tree chopping in this State, so with the aid of satellite tracking his department can prosecute.

PHIL KOPERBERG, MINISTER FOR CLIMATE CHANGE: There are a number of potential breaches if for argument's sake the trees are being cleared or felled for land clearing purposes.
Well that clearly breaches the native vegetation legislation and penalties of up to $1.1 million if a conviction is obtained can be applied.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: You've hardly got a prosecution record, though. I don't think there's been a prosecution under the Native Vegetation Act for three years?

PHIL KOPERBERG: This is a new regime, we're in hot pursuit of people who would engage in what some might describe as "environmental vandalism".

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: In an e mail exchange Stateline asked Steve Truman:
You are inciting farmers to illegal acts. I put it to you that rather than building support across the community, this lawlessness will destroy support, confirming in the public mind that you and your supporters are irresponsible red necks?

EXCERPT OF EMAIL FROM STEVE TRUMAN: There is no bigger issue in rural Australia than farmers who have their property rights stolen by legislation. If the Federal Government wants to claim they are meeting their Kyoto targets, let them pay for the 74 million tonnes of carbon they have already accounted for in meeting their emission targets. The value of the sequestered carbon is on the low side $1.85 billion and on the high 5.18 billion. You'd have to shut down the entire economy of New Zealand or Ireland to achieve the same reductions. The vegetation management acts are the most draconian legislation ever seen in this country. They take property from their lawful owners and invest it in the state.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: If you really want to win this debate, shouldn't you be supporting the farmers to get compensation for the carbon sequestration services to eco management that they are indeed providing? JEFF ANGEL: Well, the fact is everyone has an environmental responsibility. In the city we're required to look after bushland and we have tree preservation orders. There's a certain minimal level of individual responsibility which the farming responsibility did not have until we had tree clearing laws.
Certainly if they do additional carbon sequestration or avoided deforestation work on their farms they will most probably in the future get carbon credits.
But you don't get carbon credits for things that are bleedingly obvious have to be done on your property which is to stop clearing good condition vegetation.

PHIL KOPERBERG: Eventually when the Howard Government has a further awakening in this regard, we might see a truly national emissions reduction scheme as a consequence of a carbon trading scheme and the States and Territories have been urging the Prime Minister to proceed down that path for years.
His task force report suggests a later approach, 2012. The States and Territories are on the record as saying 2010 is an appropriate starting date. Industry and commerce fully supports that.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: There are other fronts opening up in these land wars. The Iemma Government is now offering to freehold at discounted prices Crown perpetual lease-hold land to lessees.

ANDREW COX, NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION: The pink areas are here, the leases which the Department of Lands is going to convert to freehold.

There's over 1.5 million hectares of these leases throughout the State with important vegetation values.
They have wetlands such as Macquarie Marshes, important vegetation remnants throughout central NSW, the woodland belt and also along the coastal area, wilderness areas which again are going to be converted to freehold land so farmers can make a windfall profits.
REECE TURNER, WILDERNESS SOCIETY: I think people would be surprised to know that on the lease-holds, these perpetual lease-holds, the lessees are only playing a flat rate of $190 a year whether they're leasing two hectares or 2,000 hectares.

GEORGINA WOODS, NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION: At the moment, what we need a moratorium on the sale of any of the high conservation value Crown leases in particular. That's a little bit over half of the Crown leases in this State.
We need an inquiry into land management generally in NSW because of the incompetence of the Department of Lands and their inability to recognise and protect conservation values.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Lands Minister Tony Kelly was unavailable but in a statement to Stateline rejected the call for a moratorium saying covenants provided the strongest protection of conservation values, backed by decades of case law precedent in freehold property law.
The Government had committed $13 million to purchase those perpetual leases with high conservation value.

JEFF ANGEL: I think what we're seeing with both this Crown lands issue and the tree chop minority who are going out clearing vegetation is a kickback from a minority of people both in the Crown lands Department which aren't particularly capable conservation managers and a minority of farmers who would like to keep clearing vegetation.
Those two institutions, or those two bodies of people need to be radically reformed.
The Government should not give in to them. The Crown lands Department frankly should be abolished so we can have modern conservation principles put in place.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: And the final front in the land wars is the issue of private native forests.
Greens MLC Ian Cohen says trees are being logged because of Iemma Government delays in proclaiming an industry code of practice.

IAN COHEN, GREENS MLC: It's been a long time and we're seeing native forests being logged without proper protection of forest type, stream areas.
It's really unregulated logging in a type of third world practice and there's a number of companies getting away with this.
We're seeing rainforest, old growth forest, high conservation value areas.
All of these areas were banned under State regulations on public lands, but on private lands we're still seeing that occurring.

PHIL KOPERBERG: One of the reasons some two years ago has gone by is to ensure that the widest possible consultation can take place.
It appeared that every time we were close to the joint agreement on a set of draft codes, of which there are four transitional codes pending the introduction of legislation in a couple of years time which will allow further time for consultation, a new issue emerged.
Those issues were brought to the fore mainly by people who had inputs into the sustainability of the industry given the constraints or the limited constraints that the codes imposed upon them.
However, I propose to take the matter finally to Cabinet in the not too distant future.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Define not too distant future?

PHIL KOPERBERG: Within a couple of weeks and I would hope that by 1st August, the codes may come into effect.

QUENTIN DEMPSTER: Mr Ian Cohen is sceptical about Mr Phil Koperberg's response given what he says is the growing power and influence of so called "brown" ministers within the Iemma Cabinet.

Our Stoolies drop another snippet that we bet the authorities would like to remain in the closet of darkness.

A Dogman out in the bush doing his most under-paid and thankless task of futilely attempting to control the wild dog population of the south eastern Snowy Mountain's bush, was confronted by a man-killing capacity, mongrel wild dog.

This animal was large, angry and displaying the demeanour of a wild beast. The dogman cautiously retreated to his vehicle where re retrieved his trusty rifle and dropped the oil pressure of this dangerous beast to the level of zero. Not without a sigh of relief from the nervous dogman as he wiped the sweat off his brow we might add.

What's more interesting, is that this huge mongrel on the prowl aggressively in our walkabout bush terrain for the likes of Keith Muir of the Colong Foundation and Reece Turner of the Wilderness Society - both pro dingo/wild dog protectionists - was sporting a chest plate as such aggressive pig dogs do.

So yes, this particular beast that may just of well met up with a family walking the trails and devoured little Sarah, appears to have been a lost or discarded pig dog, but what's even more interesting, our stoolies advise that the dogman in his wisdom had the body of this feral dog scanned and found that it was allegedly micro chipped in the Narrabri area. Check your maps for the distance from Bombala to Narrabri. Hmmmmmmmmm?

The Webb family have concluded their twice yearly cattle drive via the Broken Cart Travelling Stock Route, this time down to the lower country at their Adelong property where wintering is climatically less severe. This years return journey from Yaouk saw the cattle drive pass through an incredibly transformed Tangtangara Dam and Port Phillip fire trail area from that which was experienced on the drove up.

Their drive was given intense instructions not to loiter through the fire ravaged areas of the trail. What a bloody joke. Cattle who gently meander across country that was burnt for generations with cattle grazing it the moment the grass was green, exactly as it is now. Cattle that move seed stock, fertilise the terrain and gently apply a footprint that aerates the soils and embeds seeds. A process that saw wildflowers and small fauna survive and flourish unthreatened. Right up until greedy little self-righteous city living academics wandered by and saw the results of incredible labour and hardship. Since that time the onslaught to steal paradise has been relentless with the most devastating results and to this day the carnage is perpetuated by incompetent, non-sensical mythology driven by radical green votes for the misguided managers, manipulated by the water barons.

Due to another Debus, Corbyn and Fleming wildfire, a vast area of the Snowy Mountains alpine plains was scorched by an inferno. This particular fire swept the Snowy Plains and the northern high country in and around the Tangtangara Dam. A Dam that is part of the Snowy Scheme and almost dry, and this at the time of the fire was in no way an understatement. A dam we might add that is essential to the ACT water supply. No wonder Mayor Stanhope and his government are talking about level 4 & 5 water restrictions. The ACT like to claim their water comes via the Nass valley river system, in fact it is really delivered from the NSW High Country and the Tangtangara Dam. Yep! NSW water.

Back to the wildfire.

It was pretty obvious that God had, had enough of letting the National Park's managers have their mythological agenda way and decided to pull in their leash and send lightening down to do the job for them, before things got really out of hand management wise. What even God didn't realise was, that once man tried to intervene and put out the Lord's handiwork, the fire was going to grow into massively uncontrollable proportions, way beyond that which was intended. Once again, NPWS terrain was scorched beyond reason at the absolute wrong time of the year and heavy machinery brought in, scarred the landscape. The result, the entire area burnt hot and deep for mega square kilometres (some180 sq klm) with most things being incinerated before it. Trees, insects, birds, possums, frogs and even fast moving iconic brumbies, roasted in a flash.

The up-side was, the snowy plains had not entirely succumbed to radical green myth-management, much to their chagrin, still being able to cool the flames down, once they left each forest patch of insidious snow grass strangling heather. This heather like scrub is both unnatural as an uncontrolled cover of the land, along with being a terrain stealer and hence total inhibiter of the native snow grasses and flowers. Add to this heather strangulation, the unmanaged tussock being starved of cool burn for many years with its thick dead matted leaves, and between them both they had just about finished the Greenies job of Snowy Mountain destruction.

Alas, for the radical green sect, this fire that swept the almost snowgrass devoid plains area, has left an indelible, evidentiary panoramic view of what is correct management and what is not. It is so starkly obvious that cool-fire management is not only necessary, but incredibly essential, that the greenies and the NPWS will be spending millions of our tax dollars to spin their way out of this bog and not a horse, nor a cow to blame. We the people have never had such conclusive proof that the NSW National Park "lock it up and let it burn mentality" management process is not only wrong, it is culpably wrong.

This spring time coming has to be on every tourist's agenda and every parent should plan to take their children on a Snowy Mountain drive down the Port Phillip fire trail to Currango Station to see for themselves just how the wider populace is being misled and duped, enabling you all to see the real truth and once and for all, come to understand just how disgustingly the historic land managers have been wrongly vilified.

The Port Phillip fire trail is a very well used and defined roadway, supporting two wheel drive vehicles when it's dry, running more or less east/ west. Entering from the long plains road off the Snowy Highway and then turning right into the trail only a few kilometres down. It was a large part of this trail that was attempted to be used as a firebreak with only minimal success. The small part of the trail that actually held the inferno at bay delivers the visual proof of cool-fire as a regular management tool, as opposed to this and other summer infernos that we are seeing every year with deadly consequences.

As one leaves the Long Plains road onto the Port Phillip fire trail, almost immediately an environmental contrast is clearly depicted as the roadside vista comes into view whilst looking down the gully on to a little narrow bridge. On one side of the trail where the fire had swept, there was now unbelievable green sward (grass covering) sweeping to the top of the opposite side and on banks of the stream edges there were these lush green shoots sprouting from the burnt tussocks. To the northern side of the trail where the fire had failed to reach, was the old neglected snowy plains. Stale, rank, snow grass and tussocks, fallen over and stifling to non-existence that which would otherwise have grown, heather for as far as the eye could see, stifling even the rank snow grass out of existence. The reeds and tussocks in and around the stream-bed were large stale and thick.

Now this view was, and will be for many months to come, one that was an eye to behold. As one drops into the little gully and carefully crosses over the narrow, but sturdy bridge and climbs out the other side onto the hillock, a startling, wondrous view, not seen for many a decade opens up. Thousands of hectares of green snow grass, like a manicured park land. Not sparse grass, but lush, fertile, thick snow grass making its comeback after the quenching fires that swept the plains. Not a living heather bush to be seen across the entire regenerated grasslands. Sadly, the trees on the hilltops had been burnt ferociously and their demise, or return, will not be known for years. Everywhere there had been a carpet of dense, stifling, heather bush, the ground had been burnt severely due to the unnatural fuel loads this scrub delivered, but the heather itself had been destroyed and the burnt ground was a small price to pay for its demise.

The old snow gums, many easily described as ancient, were treated to a fire-storm that will see them disappear into obscurity and rotting wood. These gnarly old sentinels of the mountains have with stood all that has come its way until the Greens and NPWS became their keeper. The incredibly artistic shapes of the trunks were hewn from blizzard, wind and cool fire and they withstood all. They just weren't strong enough to withstand radicalism touted as environmentalism, driven by commercialism, on the platform of mythism. Well the Brumby is next on their hit list, just after they have seen to Warren and Janet (Hopi) Webb and their living historical cattle-drive.

The battle starts in earnest for the "THE BATTLE FOR BROKEN CART" and it is all you people, 4X4rs, horse riders, bush walkers, locals, cross country bike riders, campers, parents with children, everybody who believes in Australia and its historic living history and culture that we want to see attend as individuals with an individual desire to attend to the Snowy Plains in support on some day next summer. The day will be your choice, but I will let you know when I will be going to protest, just so you know, as you may wish to tag along.

Minister Koperberg is the only man that can make a ministerial change to the Management Plan that his predecessor Bob Debus wrongly put in force in lieu of securing green votes in the form of denying Cattle entry to and in the Kosciusko National Park. Phil can either meet the people's desires, or go down with Debus as he seeks his final Australian environmental betrayal and attempt to become the most despised Federal Environment Minister in this nation's history, both past and future. In the mean time get active, write to your Local, State and Federal politicians, write to your newspapers, ring them up, e-mail them. Tell them what you want, ask them what science they are using for these decisions. Not once but pester them to let them know you mean business. Go to the SOSNEWS.ORG website and down load the addresses of all the politicians you wish to tackle, read the Battle for Broken Cart series and demand action.

The Broken Cart TSR (travelling Stock Route) does not belong to The NPWS, the DEC, Phil Koperberg, or is part of the National Park and it never did, it belongs to you, me and everybody else in this nation that is a citizen, but more importantly, it is still a working stock route that is essential to everything we as Australians hold dear, not just the Webb family, but they certainly are the last custodians of our northern high country heritage. Together we stand, divided we fall. Where do you sit?

Brumbyy with 2Ys

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